{"id":9471,"date":"2024-09-12T21:02:29","date_gmt":"2024-09-12T21:02:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/12\/post-debate-trump-consoles-himself-with-other-peoples-faith\/"},"modified":"2024-09-12T21:02:29","modified_gmt":"2024-09-12T21:02:29","slug":"post-debate-trump-consoles-himself-with-other-peoples-faith","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/12\/post-debate-trump-consoles-himself-with-other-peoples-faith\/","title":{"rendered":"Post-debate, Trump consoles himself with (other people\u2019s) faith"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Almost immediately after the presidential debate ended Tuesday, former president Donald Trump proclaimed victory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">This was inevitable, certainly. He did the same thing after debating President Joe Biden in June, but that was at least a contest in which he was obviously the more successful participant. On Tuesday, he was not \u2014 but then, he hadn\u2019t been in any of his presidential debates in 2016 or 2020 either. And after those ones he generally did what he did Tuesday, lifting up garbage online \u201cpolls\u201d in which his supporters were able to overwhelmingly declare him victorious. Actual polls, reliable ones, offer a different assessment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Late Wednesday night, Trump moved on to broadly declaring himself successful.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cPeople are just starting to give me credit for having a GREAT DEBATE. The Voters and Voter Polls showed it, but the Fake News Media wasn\u2019t giving the credit that was due,\u201d his social media post read. \u201cNow they are seeing the results with independent Voters, Evangelicals, and more \u2014 and saying, WOW!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">This has not been my impression. I was curious, though, where the claim about evangelicals came from. The answer, happily, came from scrolling down a bit in Trump\u2019s feed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Shortly before that post, he had reposted something from journalist David Brody. Brody pointed to data from Pew Research Center showing that, as he put it, Trump was \u201cup 82%_16%.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cThat\u2019s a PHENOMENAL number,\u201d Brody added, \u201cand it should go higher from there because voter education &amp; GOTV programs haven\u2019t even hit their full effect yet. Some of the growth doesn\u2019t show up until Election Day.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">This is not the assumption I would make. Trump is a well-known entity in general but particularly among White evangelical Protestants. It\u2019s unlikely that many of them are going to start shifting toward him or away from Vice President Kamala Harris over the next few weeks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Nor is the Pew number particularly \u201cphenomenal.\u201d Pew has also developed estimates of support by religion over the past two presidential elections. In 2016, Trump won White evangelical Protestants by 77 percent to 16 percent. In 2020, it was 84 percent to 15 percent. The poll\u2019s 82 percent to 16 percent is squarely in line with 2020 (if slightly worse to a non-statistically significant degree).<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">That level of support, though, reflects how important the evangelical vote was to Trump\u2019s success. In 2016, evangelical voters made up about a third of Trump\u2019s total support. Four years later, they made up a bit more. In neither election was that support enough to give Trump a popular-vote victory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump\u2019s Democratic opponents, meanwhile, have fared better among those who aren\u2019t religious \u2014 either unaffiliated with a religion or explicitly nonreligious. In 2020, those voters made up about as much of Biden\u2019s support as evangelicals made up Trump\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Research from PRRI has identified how central the support of White Christians is to Trump\u2019s political base. The organization\u2019s recently published census of religious identity shows the long-term problem for Trump and Republicans more broadly: The percentage of White Christians (including evangelicals) is sliding, while the percentage of religiously unaffiliated Americans is rising. This slide is tightly integrated into Trump\u2019s political rhetoric.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In 2016 and 2020, about a fifth of the presidential electorate identified as White evangelical Protestants \u2014 overperforming their presence in the population. In those same elections, about a quarter of voters were unaffiliated, agnostic or atheist.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">One takeaway here is that Trump is, once again, misreading polls. The Pew poll that Brody highlighted was completed Sept. 2, more than a week before the debate. It does not in any way have people saying \u201cWOW\u201d about how impressed evangelicals were with that encounter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Another takeaway is that Trump continues to understand that his political future depends on those religious voters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Speaking to television host Phil McGraw this month, Trump suggested that his survival after coming under fire during a rally in Pennsylvania two months ago was a sign of divine intervention. Asked by McGraw if he thought there was a reason he lived, Trump said that \u201cthe only thing I can think is that God loves our country. And he thinks we\u2019re going to bring our country back. He wants to bring it back.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The attack has frequently been presented in religious terms by his supporters, from almost the moment that it occurred. A giant flag draped behind the stage where he spoke was briefly tangled before the attack unfolded, for example; his supporters now suggest that its appearance, vaguely resembling an angel, was a sign of providence. Even when he was president, most evangelicals said they thought Trump was selected by God to serve. To many of them, the assassination attempt merely demonstrates it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The religious aspect is unquestionably one reason that Trump and his allies seek to keep the assassination attempt at the forefront of the public\u2019s attention. During the debate, Trump used the shooting to imply that Harris and President Joe Biden were somehow responsible (a claim for which there\u2019s no evidence). But more broadly, his supporters insist that the incident has been under-discussed in part because they see it as essential to the election, which in turn is in part because they think that Trump\u2019s survival is a sign that God intended to preserve him. (What this says about God\u2019s view of the man who was killed is left unexplored.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump is not particularly religious himself (to force the word \u201cparticularly\u201d to play a role of significant understatement). But he knows both that his base is strongly religious and that they are concerned about the status of religion in American society. He\u2019s drawn strength from this symbiotic relationship since 2015. And now, in his time of emotional need \u2014 convincing himself that the debate went well \u2014 he again enlists his religious supporters in his defense.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Almost immediately after the presidential debate ended Tuesday, former president Donald Trump proclaimed victory. This was inevitable, certainly. He did the same thing after debating President Joe Biden in June, but that was at least a contest in which he was obviously the more successful participant. On Tuesday, he was not \u2014 but then, he [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":9472,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9471","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9471","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9471"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9471\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/9472"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9471"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9471"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9471"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}