{"id":8801,"date":"2024-08-30T11:02:15","date_gmt":"2024-08-30T11:02:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/08\/30\/trump-and-vances-false-and-misleading-rhetoric-on-tariffs\/"},"modified":"2024-08-30T11:02:15","modified_gmt":"2024-08-30T11:02:15","slug":"trump-and-vances-false-and-misleading-rhetoric-on-tariffs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/08\/30\/trump-and-vances-false-and-misleading-rhetoric-on-tariffs\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump and Vance\u2019s false and misleading rhetoric on tariffs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cA tariff is a tax on a foreign country. That\u2019s the way it is, whether you like it or not. A lot of people like to say it\u2019s a tax on us. No, no, no. It\u2019s a tax on a foreign country. It\u2019s a tax on a country that\u2019s ripping us off and stealing our jobs. And it\u2019s a tax that doesn\u2019t affect our country.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u2014 Former president Donald Trump, remarks at a rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., Aug. 17<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI think economists really disagree about the effects of tariffs because there can be a dynamic effect, so what some economists will say is what you just said, that it will actually raise costs for consumers. But what other people say, and I think the record supports what this other view, is that it causes this dynamic effect where more jobs come into the country. Anything that you lose on the tariff from the perspective of the consumer, you gain in higher wages, so you\u2019re ultimately much better off.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u2014 Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance, interview on NBC\u2019s \u201cMeet the Press,\u201d Aug. 25<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cOur corrupt leadership said, \u2018If you put tariffs on China, prices will go up.\u2019 Instead, Donald Trump did exactly that, manufacturing came back and prices went down for American citizens. They went up for the Chinese, but they went down for our people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u2014 Vance, remarks in Big Rapids, Mich., Aug. 27<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Former president Donald Trump has said that, if he is elected for a second term, he will impose an across-the-board tariff on all imported products. As is usual with Trump, he doesn\u2019t offer many specifics \u2014 and they can change day-to-day. Sometimes he has suggested it would be a 10 percent tariff; another time he floated it as high as 20 percent. He has also indicated that he would impose a 60 percent tariff on Chinese products.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Officially, the Republican platform calls for \u201cbaseline tariffs on foreign-made goods,\u201d without offering a percentage, and Trump\u2019s campaign website more than a year ago promoted \u201creciprocal tariffs\u201d that match tariffs imposed by other countries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump\u2019s undisciplined messaging has given Vice President Kamala Harris an opening to argue, as she did in her nomination acceptance speech at the Democratic convention, that Trump would harm middle-class voters. \u201cHe intends to enact what, in effect, is a national sales tax,\u201d she said. \u201cCall it a Trump tax that would raise prices on middle-class families by almost $4,000 a year.\u201d Her figure is a high estimate from a left-leaning group supportive of Democrats, but other economists agree such tariffs would raise prices for Americans.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">To which the Trump campaign says: Wait a minute! The former president flatly says tariffs are a \u201ctax on a foreign country.\u201d His running mate acknowledges that \u201csome economists\u201d might say costs rise for some Americans but suggests this is a matter of dispute among experts. He makes the case that in the long term, even if prices go up, the outcome is a net benefit for Americans.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">We challenged the Trump campaign to give us some evidence for these claims. Here\u2019s what we found.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">The Facts<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">First, let\u2019s get this straight: Trump is flat wrong to claim that the entire tariff is paid by a foreign country. And Vance is wrong to suggest there\u2019s a debate among pointy-headed experts about whether tariffs increase prices.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">There\u2019s no controversy. Open any introductory economics textbook and you\u2019ll find a standard supply-and-demand graph that shows how prices rise when a tariff is imposed on imported products. (There\u2019s even a T-shirt with the graph for econ geeks.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Economists agree that tariffs \u2014 essentially a tax on domestic consumption \u2014 are paid by importers, such as U.S. companies, who in turn pass on most or all of the costs to consumers or producers who may use imported materials in their products. As a matter of demand and supply elasticities, overseas producers will pay part of the tax if there are fewer goods sold to the United States. Domestic producers in effect get a subsidy because they can raise their prices to the level imposed on importers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Contrary to Vance\u2019s claim, there is little debate over the fact that consumer prices will rise in response to tariffs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The Kent A. Clark Center for Global Markets at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business frequently surveys prominent economists about issues in the news. In 2018, when Trump imposed steel and aluminum tariffs, the Clark Center asked 44 economists about this statement: \u201cImposing new U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum will improve Americans\u2019 welfare.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Not a single economist agreed. The split was over how wrong the statement was: 28 percent disagreed, and 65 percent strongly disagreed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Similarly, the Clark Center in 2019, after Trump imposed more tariffs, asked 43 economists for their opinion on this statement: \u201cThe incidence of the latest round of U.S. import tariffs is likely to fall primarily on American households.\u201d For that answer, 60 percent agreed, 14 strongly agreed, and 14 percent were uncertain.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Finally, this May, after President Joe Biden imposed tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles, the Clark Center asked 46 economists about this statement: \u201cThe proposed U.S. tariffs on Chinese EVs would lead to measurably higher prices of EVs in the U.S.\u201d This question resulted in the first hint of a dispute: 54 percent agreed and 24 percent strongly agreed, but two of the economists either disagreed or disagreed strongly. Dirk Bergemann of Yale University gave a reason \u2014 the electric-vehicle market already was very competitive, so he believed overall prices would not be affected.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But clearly that is a minority opinion. Overall, the surveys show broad agreement among economists that tariffs raise prices \u2014 and that American consumers get the bill. If there\u2019s debate, it\u2019s about how big the price impact would be and how long lasting.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Here\u2019s a sampling of studies that looked at the impact of tariffs imposed by Trump when he was president:<\/p>\n<p><span>Kadee Russ of the University of California at Davis in 2019 estimated, from various studies, that net losses projected for 2020 from the tariffs imposed by Trump as president would be between about $500 and $1,700 per household.<\/span><br \/>\n<span>The Congressional Budget Office in 2020 estimated that Trump\u2019s tariffs were projected to reduce average real household income by $1,277 in 2020.<\/span><br \/>\n<span>A 2021 study by Alberto Cavallo of Harvard Business School and others found tariffs were only partially passed on to retail consumers, meaning companies reduced their profit margins or they spread the hit across many goods that they sell, including non-tariffed goods. In other words, the costs would still show up to consumers, just not in a way that is readily apparent. (This would be less easy for firms to do if tariffs were increased across the board.)<\/span><br \/>\n<span>The International Trade Commission in 2023 found evidence for near complete pass-through of the steel, aluminum and Chinese tariffs to American consumers. \u201cThis implies that a 10 percent ad valorem [at time of transaction] tariff raised the price of U.S. imports from China by about 10 percent,\u201d the report said.<\/span><br \/>\n<span>The Tax Foundation in June estimated that the Trump tariffs, which were retained by Biden, amounted to $79 billion in new taxes on Americans, for an average annual tax increase on U.S. households of $625.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In other words, tariffs cause prices for consumers to increase \u2014 but the amount is not always clear or it may be spread through the economy in ways that are not readily apparent. Companies adapt to the new business environment and adjust accordingly.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Even an economist recommended by the Trump campaign, Jeff Ferry, chief economist at the pro-tariff Coalition for a Prosperous America, says a 10 percent tariff would increase prices for consumers. But he argues that this \u201cone-time price increase,\u201d which would last six years, would be mitigated by other positive effects of tariffs, such as higher economic growth and more domestic jobs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cTrump and Vance are oversimplifying in the quotes you provided,\u201d he wrote in an email. \u201cFor any tariff, economic theory holds that the cost is split between the buyer (importer) and the seller (exporter). That theory is correct in the real world.\u201d But he maintains that prices from Trump\u2019s tariffs over time did not go up significantly or even went down, while domestic production increased, \u201cso at a level of simplification it is true to say that Americans did not pay for the tariffs.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The Trump campaign has cried foul about Harris\u2019s claim that the tariffs are, in effect, a national sales tax. But at least her statement is based on widely accepted economic theory on the immediate impact of tariffs. One could argue over whether the estimate of the impact is correct. As we noted, she embraces a high estimate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But economist Kimberly Clausing \u2014 co-author of a study at the pro-trade Peterson Institute for International Economics with a lower number ($2,600 per household) \u2014 says these studies are underestimates because they do not consider the increase in the price of goods that compete with imports. \u201cWe have every reason to think U.S. domestic prices would rise in those sectors that compete with imports\u201d and \u201cthat effect is very large,\u201d she said in an email. \u201cThe true cost I\u2019d guess is roughly twice as high as our number.\u201d<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">The Pinocchio Test<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump\u2019s assertion that tariffs are only a \u201ctax on a foreign country\u201d and \u201cdoesn\u2019t affect our country\u201d is, of course, ridiculous. Vance tries to muddy the waters by claiming there is a dispute among economists when, in fact, as we have shown, there is no dispute. Tariffs raise prices for consumers, at least in the short run. Vance argues that there is a \u201cdynamic effect\u201d that mitigates those higher prices, such as more jobs coming into the country over time. That might be open to debate \u2014 the Tax Foundation says jobs will be lost \u2014 but it\u2019s undisputed that most Americans would end up paying more for many goods if Trump\u2019s tariff plan was imposed.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">Four Pinocchios<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">(About our rating scale)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Send us facts to check by filling out this form<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Sign up for The Fact Checker weekly newsletter<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The Fact Checker is a verified signatory to the International Fact-Checking Network code of principles<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cA tariff is a tax on a foreign country. That\u2019s the way it is, whether you like it or not. A lot of people like to say it\u2019s a tax on us. No, no, no. It\u2019s a tax on a foreign country. 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