{"id":8700,"date":"2024-08-28T21:02:10","date_gmt":"2024-08-28T21:02:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/08\/28\/vance-repeats-a-bogus-trump-claim-on-factories-debunked-years-ago\/"},"modified":"2024-08-28T21:02:10","modified_gmt":"2024-08-28T21:02:10","slug":"vance-repeats-a-bogus-trump-claim-on-factories-debunked-years-ago","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/08\/28\/vance-repeats-a-bogus-trump-claim-on-factories-debunked-years-ago\/","title":{"rendered":"Vance repeats a bogus Trump claim on \u2018factories\u2019 debunked years ago"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cIf you go back to the Trump presidency, we had 12,000 factories that were built during Donald Trump\u2019s presidency.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u2014 Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance, in remarks on NBC\u2019s \u201cMeet the Press,\u201d Aug. 25<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance, in defending former president Donald Trump\u2019s proposal for across-the-board tariffs, argued that Trump managed to bring back manufacturing jobs from overseas when he was president. He then cited as evidence a statistic that immediately gave us PTSD.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201c12,000 factories\u201d \u2014 we\u2019d fact-checked this falsehood during the Trump administration. Trump said it 15 times during his presidency, according to our database of false and misleading claims, including in the 2020 State of the Union address. He began making this claim after reports that, before the covid pandemic, the manufacturing sector was entering a recession.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But this is an especially bogus figure.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">The Facts<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cFactories\u201d conjures up images of smokestacks and production lines, but the dataset cited by Trump \u2014 and now Vance \u2014 is not really about factories. Trump is citing a Bureau of Labor Statistics database set known as the Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages, which counts the number of \u201cestablishments in private manufacturing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But more than 80 percent of these \u201cmanufacturing establishments\u201d employ five or fewer people. If those sound like pretty small factories, that\u2019s because many are not \u201cfactories.\u201d The BLS considers any establishment \u201cengaged in the mechanical, physical, or chemical transformation of materials, substances, or components into new products.\u201d So that also means establishments \u201cthat transform materials or substances into new products by hand or in the worker\u2019s home and those engaged in selling to the general public products made on the same premises from which they are sold, such as bakeries, candy stores, and custom tailors.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">It\u2019s also strange that Vance would rely on an outdated Trump statistic. As we mentioned, Trump included this in the 2020 State of the Union address, and it represented the period from the first quarter of 2017 to the third quarter of 2019.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">For all of Trump\u2019s presidency, the figure would be nearly 18,000 additional \u201cmanufacturing establishments.\u201d But here\u2019s the rub: Through the first quarter of this year, President Joe Biden could claim a gain of nearly 39,000 during his tenure.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">A Vance spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">The Pinocchio Test<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">It says something about the quality of Trump campaign research that Vance would need to reach back to an outdated claim debunked four years ago. These aren\u2019t really factories \u2014 and Trump\u2019s record on this statistic fares poorly compared with Biden\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance earns Four Pinocchios.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wpds-c-iLVUUd wpds-c-iLVUUd-bALvEi-isCenteredLayout-false\">Four Pinocchios<\/h3>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">(About our rating scale)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Send us facts to check by filling out this form.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Sign up for The Fact Checker weekly newsletter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The Fact Checker is a verified signatory to the International Fact-Checking Network code of principles.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cIf you go back to the Trump presidency, we had 12,000 factories that were built during Donald Trump\u2019s presidency.\u201d \u2014 Republican vice-presidential nominee JD Vance, in remarks on NBC\u2019s \u201cMeet the Press,\u201d Aug. 25 Vance, in defending former president Donald Trump\u2019s proposal for across-the-board tariffs, argued that Trump managed to bring back manufacturing jobs from [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":8701,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8700","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8700","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8700"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8700\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/8701"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8700"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8700"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8700"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}