{"id":7543,"date":"2024-08-08T21:02:21","date_gmt":"2024-08-08T21:02:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/08\/08\/jesse-watters-doesnt-know-how-polls-work\/"},"modified":"2024-08-08T21:02:21","modified_gmt":"2024-08-08T21:02:21","slug":"jesse-watters-doesnt-know-how-polls-work","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/08\/08\/jesse-watters-doesnt-know-how-polls-work\/","title":{"rendered":"Jesse Watters doesn\u2019t know how polls work"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Jesse Watters is onto it. Onto the whole thing. He\u2019s figured it out.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The Fox News host knows that the media \u2014 that is, the media outside of his own right-wing channel \u2014 is hopelessly in the tank for Vice President Kamala Harris. And he has the evidence to prove it, as he revealed Wednesday afternoon on the show \u201cThe Five.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cThe media\u2019s just gonna protect and elect\u201d the Democrats, Watters declared. \u201cThey\u2019re juicing the polls! I just found out, this country identifies R plus-2. And all the polls we\u2019ve seen with Kamala doing so well, their samples? R plus-7! R plus-8! R plus-4!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cThese are fake polls!\u201d he added. \u201cTrump is going to kill her!\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cWell, we\u2019ll see,\u201d co-host Jeanine Pirro replied, moving on to another subject.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Perhaps she was confused, as you might be, about what Watters is saying. Perhaps she took it in stride, given that Trump\u2019s campaign similarly disputed a poll this week. Or perhaps she realized, as you may already but certainly will in a moment, that Watters doesn\u2019t know what he\u2019s talking about.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The first thing to point out here is that Watters misspoke. He was trying to say that the polls showing a lead for Harris were D plus-7 or plus-8, not R. Because the claim he\u2019s making is that the population is more Republican than Democrat \u2014 that Republicans have a 2-point (plus-2) edge in identification \u2014 while the polls include more Democrats by a 7- or 8-point margin.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The next thing to point out is that the \u201cR plus-2\u2032 thing is a misrepresentation of what polling shows.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Watters is probably referring to Gallup\u2019s regular polls in which they ask Americans \u201cas of today, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat or an independent?\u201d The most recent result, completed in the first three weeks of July, had Republicans with a 2-point advantage, as Watters states.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But you\u2019ll notice on that graph that the two-party total comes up to less than 60 percent. That\u2019s because the actual most-common identifier is \u201cindependent.\u201d America is an \u201cI plus-11\u2033 country, if you want to put it in Wattersian terms.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Gallup, like other pollsters, then asks people whether they tend to vote more with the Republican or Democratic Party, which most independents do. Overlay that data, and you see that, in a sense, America is an \u201cR plus-6\u2032 country!<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Or at least it was in early July, before President Joe Biden withdrew his candidacy for reelection. When Trump was leading in the polls, this was the Republican edge. It may change.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">We should also note that this is self-identified partisanship. In actual voter registrations, Democrats have a substantial edge. L2, a political data firm, shows more registered Democrats in states where voters register by party and a growing advantage in its modeled partisanship for states that don\u2019t have partisan registration.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">(The modeled values, shown with the outlined bars below, use other indicators, including primary voting history, to estimate a voter\u2019s partisanship.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In other words, while Republicans have an advantage in identification at the moment, Democrats have one in registration.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">All of this, though, ignores the other fundamental problem with Watters\u2019s self-confident dismissal of polling: the results of a statistically accurate poll are essentially never an exact reflection of the people who participate in it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">You understand how this works in your own life. If you\u2019re buying a Christmas present for your niece and nephew, you might get suggestions for popular video games from other teenagers. You find a representative opinion that you feel confident answers your question.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Pollsters have a far more rigorous way of doing this same thing. If they are trying to determine the likely results of an election, their poll has two components: talking to poll respondents and figuring out who is likely to vote. Then, using relatively complicated math, they ensure that the responses reflect the electorate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Let\u2019s say that you ask 100 Democrats and 80 Republicans how they plan to vote in an election, with 90 percent of each group picking their party\u2019s candidate and 10 percent selecting the other party\u2019s. By itself, that\u2019s a 54 percent to 46 percent margin in favor of the Democrat. If you think, though, that the electorate will be 50-50? You can simply treat each Democrat response as eight-tenths of a response \u2014 what pollsters call \u201cweighting.\u201d The result is a 50-50 race.<\/p>\n<div class=\"c-ftJkJn c-ftJkJn-hKVnEr-variant-onSurface onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>Respondents<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>Dem votes<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>Rep votes<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>Weighted Dem<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>Weighted Rep<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>Democrats<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>90<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>10<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>72 (90 x 80%)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>8 (10 x 80%)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>Republicans<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>8<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>72<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>8 (8 x 100%)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"wpds-c-cQERKD wpds-c-cQERKD-icAfHaR-css onSurfaceOverride\">\n<div>72 (72 x 100%)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">This assumes, of course, that the estimates about who will vote are correct, which is by itself fraught. But, again, pollsters spend a lot of time and energy figuring out what the target population looks like across a range of demographic groupings. Then they do their best to match their respondent poll to the target population and weight the results to make up the difference.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Pollsters, after all, are in the business of accurately capturing public opinion and they know how to do their job effectively. If a pollster were consistently giving its clients inaccurate results, it would quickly find itself losing clients (unless the clients wanted inaccurate results, of course).<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">As Watters has said, he\u2019s in the business of championing disarray on the left. If that means distorting crime data or misrepresenting how polling works, so be it. Watters knows how to do his job effectively, too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Lenny Bronner contributed to this report.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jesse Watters is onto it. Onto the whole thing. He\u2019s figured it out. The Fox News host knows that the media \u2014 that is, the media outside of his own right-wing channel \u2014 is hopelessly in the tank for Vice President Kamala Harris. And he has the evidence to prove it, as he revealed Wednesday [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":7544,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7543","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7543","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7543"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7543\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7544"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7543"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7543"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7543"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}