{"id":7541,"date":"2024-08-08T21:02:34","date_gmt":"2024-08-08T21:02:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/08\/08\/rfk-jr-and-the-third-party-effect-are-now-hurting-trump\/"},"modified":"2024-08-08T21:02:34","modified_gmt":"2024-08-08T21:02:34","slug":"rfk-jr-and-the-third-party-effect-are-now-hurting-trump","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/08\/08\/rfk-jr-and-the-third-party-effect-are-now-hurting-trump\/","title":{"rendered":"RFK Jr. and the third-party effect are now hurting Trump"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Democrats have, until recently, spent much of the 2024 election fretting. And high on the list of reasons was the presence of third-party candidates like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. who they feared would pull more votes from their side.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Today, Vice President Kamala Harris hasn\u2019t just risen in the polls; she has shifted that third-party dynamic. She now does better when you include other candidates.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And there\u2019s increasing evidence that independent candidate Kennedy, in particular \u2014 a candidate once elevated by Donald Trump\u2019s allies when he was challenging President Joe Biden in the Democratic primaries \u2014 is pulling significantly more votes from Trump than Harris.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Since the Democratic ticket turned over from Biden to Harris last month, a half-dozen quality polls have tested both a Trump-Harris matchup and a crowded race that included independent and third-party candidates. In all of them, Harris performed better in the crowded race.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">She led by an average of 1.5 points in those head-to-head matchups, and 3.3 points in the crowded fields.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Just about all of those numbers are within the margin of error, and the shifts are small. But given this is now a half-dozen polls, and that these shifts are among the voters in the same poll, it\u2019s safe to say third-party candidates are now hurting Trump more.<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">This is also a change from the way third-party candidates affected the race in prior versions of these same polls. The third-party impact as a whole was more evenly distributed than a lot of people appreciated, and Kennedy looked like he was at least threatening to take more from Trump than Biden. But Biden gained ground in only one of the same six polls with the crowded field.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And when you dig into the more recent polls, you begin to see how Kennedy in particular \u2014 the only other candidate generally polling higher than 1 percent \u2014 is now evidently hurting Trump.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">A new Marquette University Law School poll released Wednesday is Harris\u2019s best high-quality poll yet. It shows her leading by six points (53 percent to 47 percent) among likely voters in a head-to-head matchup, and by eight points (50-42) when you include third-party candidates.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Kennedy takes just 3 percent of both Democrats and Republicans in the poll, while taking 13 percent of independents. But the independents he takes come at Trump\u2019s expense: Kennedy wins 8 percent of Democratic-leaning independents, compared with 23 percent of Republican-leaning independents.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">If you lump Democratic-leaning independents in with Democrats and Republican-leaning independents in with Republicans, Harris loses just five points from her base in a crowded field (dropping from 95 percent to 90 percent), while Trump loses eight points from his (dropping from 94 percent to 86 percent).<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The story is similar in a New York Times\/Siena College poll conducted shortly after Biden dropped out last month.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The race overall shifted from Trump up one (48-47) in a head-to-head matchup to Harris up one (44-43) in a crowded field. And again, Kennedy voters came more from Trump\u2019s side.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">When Kennedy supporters were asked to choose between Trump and Harris, 50 percent chose Trump, while just 21 percent chose Harris. (The other 29 percent either said they didn\u2019t know or refused to answer.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">That\u2019s a shift from the Times\/Siena poll in late June and early July, when about as many Kennedy voters came from Trump\u2019s side (40 percent) as Biden\u2019s (38 percent).<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Those numbers get at the caveat for Harris in these polls. One way to look at them is that these voters are coming at Trump\u2019s expense and could hurt him in November; another is that they are more predisposed toward him if and when they decide to vote for one of the two major-party candidates \u2014 probably bringing the race closer to the head-to-head numbers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And that\u2019s what generally happens as an election progresses. We\u2019ve already seen the share of third-party voters shrink significantly; Kennedy was polling in the double digits for much of the race, and he\u2019s now averaging about 5 percent. The other candidates \u2014 Libertarian Chase Oliver, Green Party candidate Jill Stein and independent Cornel West \u2014 usually pull 1 percent or less.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But small margins do matter; the last two elections were decided by a point or less in the decisive states. And however large the ultimate impact, you\u2019d rather have these candidates pulling voters from your opponent than you. That appears to be what\u2019s happening right now for Harris.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The initial elevation of Kennedy\u2019s campaign on the right \u2014 including by Trump ally Stephen K. Bannon and House Republicans at a hearing last year \u2014 is now looking even more like a real potential blunder.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Democrats have, until recently, spent much of the 2024 election fretting. And high on the list of reasons was the presence of third-party candidates like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. who they feared would pull more votes from their side. Today, Vice President Kamala Harris hasn\u2019t just risen in the polls; she has shifted that third-party [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":7542,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7541","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7541","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7541"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7541\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7542"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7541"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7541"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7541"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}