{"id":6675,"date":"2024-07-24T23:02:13","date_gmt":"2024-07-24T23:02:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/24\/vance-once-advocated-that-children-get-votes-that-parents-could-cast\/"},"modified":"2024-07-24T23:02:13","modified_gmt":"2024-07-24T23:02:13","slug":"vance-once-advocated-that-children-get-votes-that-parents-could-cast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/24\/vance-once-advocated-that-children-get-votes-that-parents-could-cast\/","title":{"rendered":"Vance once advocated that children get votes that parents could cast"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">A year before J.D. Vance was elected to the Senate, he advocated for a novel way to enhance the political strength of families \u2014 by giving parents the ability to cast tens of millions of additional votes on behalf of their children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance, now the Republican nominee for vice president, in a 2021 speech called for encouraging Americans to have more babies and allowing them to more fully advocate for their children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cWhen you go to the polls in this country as a parent, you should have more power,\u201d he told the conservative Intercollegiate Studies Institute. \u201cYou should have more of an ability to speak your voice in our democratic republic than people who don\u2019t have kids. Let\u2019s face the consequences and the reality. If you don\u2019t have as much of an investment in the future of this country, maybe you shouldn\u2019t get nearly the same voice.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Such a voting system would almost surely face legal challenges, experts in election law said. It would also create logistical hurdles. Election officials would need to track which voters were eligible to cast multiple ballots and regularly update their voter rolls to account for moves, divorces and court decisions in child custody cases.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance appears unlikely to push for the idea if he\u2019s elected to the White House alongside GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump. Vance has not written legislation on the issue since he was elected to the Senate in 2022. Vance spokesman William Martin called his 2021 proposal \u201cnothing more than a thought experiment on strengthening parents\u2019 rights and not a concrete policy proposal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump has spent years baselessly calling into doubt mail-in ballots and other parts of the country\u2019s elections system. A Trump spokesman did not say whether he supported Vance\u2019s idea of letting parents cast additional votes for their children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance, the best-selling author of the 2016 memoir \u201cHillbilly Elegy,\u201d made his 2021 remarks a few weeks after he launched his Senate bid. In his 35-minute speech, Vance argued the right had lost control of all the nation\u2019s cultural institutions and needed to encourage families to have more children to avert a \u201ccivilizational crisis\u201d and reinvigorate the economy. He criticized the media, including The Washington Post, and lauded Hungarian President Viktor Orban\u2019s policy of giving newly married couples loans that are forgiven if they stay together and have children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance derided many Democratic leaders for not having children \u2014 including Vice President Harris, who has two stepchildren and is now the Democrats\u2019 likely presidential nominee.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cWhat is the one thing that unites every single one of them?\u201d Vance said of Harris and three other Democratic leaders. \u201cNot a single one of them has any children. Now why is that? Why have we let the Democrat Party become controlled by people who don\u2019t have any children?\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The next day, at another event, Vance said the left had built \u201can entire political movement that is explicitly anti-child and anti-family.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Harris spokesman Ammar Moussa accused Vance of engaging in \u201cugly, personal attacks.\u201d \u201cUnlike Donald Trump and JD Vance, Vice President Harris understands that every single American has a stake in this country\u2019s future,\u201d Moussa said. In response, Vance\u2019s campaign released a statement from Vance\u2019s aunt Lori Meibers that called criticism of him \u201cdisgusting.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The idea Vance floated was fleshed out this month in a law review article titled \u201cGive Parents the Vote\u201d by Northwestern University law professor Joshua Kleinfeld and Harvard law professor Stephen Sachs. Giving parents the chance to vote on behalf of their children would \u201cprofoundly alter the incentives of American parties and politicians,\u201d they wrote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance has not reviewed the article, according to his campaign, and he has not publicly gone into the level of detail that the authors do.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">There are more than 70 million children in the United States, according to the Census Bureau, and they account for nearly a quarter of the population. They have major stakes in climate change, the size of the federal government\u2019s debt and long-term policies, Kleinfeld and Sachs wrote. They wrote that allowing parents to vote for children has to be taken seriously even if it sounds like a \u201csilly provocation\u201d at first.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Under their plan, single parents would get to cast ballots on behalf of their children. Two parents who had shared custody would each effectively cast half a vote for each child. That way, a child\u2019s ballot would be cast even if the parents disagreed on whom to vote for. That part of the plan would complicate the work of election officials, who would be responsible for keeping track of the \u201cfractional votes\u201d cast on behalf of children.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Kleinfeld and Sachs downplayed the potential for fraud, saying election officials could establish systems to identify suspicious activity like ones the Internal Revenue Service uses to find people who falsely claim dependents on their tax returns. In response to questions, Sachs in an email called the logistical considerations of their proposal \u201ca hurdle, but not an insurmountable one.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Allowing parents to cast votes for children is in line with giving them the power to make educational and medical decisions on their behalf, the pair wrote in their law review article.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Which party would benefit from allowing parents to vote on behalf of their children is unclear, they wrote.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cAs to policy, while both parties will surely assemble new coalitions around issues of interest to parents, it\u2019s hard to know what those issues will be,\u201d they wrote, predicting politicians would start to push for \u201cmore child tax credits, more focus on school quality, more emphasis on public safety, more environmental protection, and more concern with long-term financial risk.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In his 2021 speech, Vance didn\u2019t delve into the details of his proposal, such as what to do when parents disagree on how to cast a child\u2019s ballot or whether to allow someone to vote on behalf of orphans who are wards of the state. He also did not address whether noncitizens who are barred from voting would be allowed to cast ballots on behalf of their children who were born in the United States and have citizenship. (Vance recently signed on to legislation meant to prevent granting birthright citizenship to the children of immigrants who are in the county illegally.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Joshua Douglas, an election law professor at the University of Kentucky, said he was intrigued by allowing parents to vote for children but questioned whether it would pass muster in court.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cMy guess is that a court would more likely strike it down as violating the idea of equal representation because it\u2019s one person getting more technical votes,\u201d he said. \u201cEven though they\u2019re voting almost as a proxy for their children, they\u2019re getting more votes than someone who doesn\u2019t have kids.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Edward Foley, an election law professor at Ohio State University, agreed such a system would face a tough road in court.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">He expressed doubts about the merit of the proposal. Democracy is built on the idea that all voters get an equal say and are responsible for thinking about what\u2019s best for the entire community, not just themselves, he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI applaud the idea of making sure that our political system is well designed to think about the interests of kids,\u201d he said. \u201cBut that doesn\u2019t mean giving extra votes to parents. It means everybody as a voter should be thinking about all the interests that are worthy of protection.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A year before J.D. Vance was elected to the Senate, he advocated for a novel way to enhance the political strength of families \u2014 by giving parents the ability to cast tens of millions of additional votes on behalf of their children. 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