{"id":5937,"date":"2024-07-10T16:11:52","date_gmt":"2024-07-10T16:11:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/10\/bidens-arguments-for-staying-in-the-2024-race-parsed\/"},"modified":"2024-07-10T16:11:52","modified_gmt":"2024-07-10T16:11:52","slug":"bidens-arguments-for-staying-in-the-2024-race-parsed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/10\/bidens-arguments-for-staying-in-the-2024-race-parsed\/","title":{"rendered":"Biden\u2019s arguments for staying in the 2024 race, parsed"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">There are surely good reasons for President Biden to resist pressure to drop out of his 2024 reelection race. They\u2019re just not always the ones he and his team put forward.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In recent days, Biden and his campaign have offered a number of justifications for why he shouldn\u2019t cave to that pressure and pass the torch to someone else. Often, the suggestion is that he\u2019s best-positioned to take on Donald Trump or even the only one who can defeat him \u2014 despite Biden\u2019s poor poll numbers. Even more often, it involves a novel reading of the electoral landscape that bears little resemblance to the available data.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">So as Democrats continue their lengthy internal debate, we thought it worth parsing some of the arguments put forward by the incumbent and his team.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cAll the data shows that the average Democrat out there who voted \u2014 14 million of them that voted for me \u2014 still want me to be the nominee, number one. \u2026 I wanted to make sure I was right, that the average voter out there still wanted Joe Biden. And I\u2019m confident they do.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI\u2019m getting so frustrated by the elites \u2026 in the party who \u2014 they know so much more.\u201d (Monday MSNBC \u201cMorning Joe\u201d interview)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">There is clearly an effort afoot to pitch this as powerful people trying to push Biden out. But it\u2019s not just the \u201celites\u201d who want Biden to step aside, nor is it clear that the \u201caverage\u201d Democratic voter wants him to stay. Indeed, as much as half of Biden\u2019s base wants him out, according to multiple polls, and it appears the average Democratic voter is straddling the fence.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In a post-debate CNN poll, Democratic-leaning voters said 56 percent to 43 percent that their party would have a better chance with \u201csomeone else.\u201d A New York Times-Siena College poll showed Democrats split almost evenly on whether their party should have a different nominee. In a CBS News-YouGov poll, 46 percent of Democrats said Biden shouldn\u2019t be running, versus 54 percent who said he should.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Yes, polls can be off. But even if these are off by a few points, that\u2019s a huge proportion of the base that wants someone else \u2014 even long after the primaries ended with Biden as the presumptive nominee. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cNumber two, remember all this talk about how I don\u2019t have the Black support? Come on. Give me a break. Come with me. Watch. Watch.\u201d (\u201cMorning Joe\u201d)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">It would be shocking if Biden didn\u2019t win a strong majority of Black voters. But the real question is how much support he bleeds among this extremely important and often overwhelmingly Democratic group. And virtually every poll shows him struggling, relative to past Democrats.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Democrats haven\u2019t taken less than 80 percent of the Black vote since at least 1972, and Biden won them 92 percent to 8 percent in 2020, according to the Pew Research Center\u2019s Validated Voter survey.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">A large-sample May poll from the Pew Research Center showed Biden ceding about twice as many Black voters \u2014 18 percent \u2014 in a head-to-head matchup with Trump. That poll showed more than half of Black voters wanted to replace Biden in the race.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cThe New York Times had me down 10 points before the debate \u2014 nine now, or whatever the hell it is. \u2026 New York Times had me behind before anything having to do with this [debate] \u2014 had me behind 10 points. Ten points, they had me behind. Nothing\u2019s changed substantially since the debate in the New York Times poll.\u201d (Friday ABC News interview)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The Times-Siena poll just before the debate actually had Biden trailing by between three and seven points, not 10 points, depending on whether you include third-party candidates and whether you focus on likely or registered voters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">(Indeed, no high-quality poll this year \u2014 as compiled by FiveThirtyEight \u2014 has shown Biden trailing Donald Trump by double digits.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Biden\u2019s deficit in the Times-Siena poll grew after the debate to between five and eight points, depending on how you slice it. The shifts in this and other polls have generally been within the margin of error, but there have been enough polls showing a small shift against Biden to logically assume there has been a shift.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Other polls since then also suggest voters are even more concerned about Biden\u2019s age and acuity and view him less positively. His deficit in the national FiveThirtyEight average of polls has grown by about two points since the debate, and his average approval rating has hit an all-time low of about 37 percent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cPres Joe Biden is the only person standing between us and another Donald Trump term \u2026\u201d (Biden spokesman T.J. Ducklo on Saturday)<\/p>\n<div class=\"PJLV PJLV-icvAPjC-css\">\n<p>This is a close election. It will be until the end. Pres Joe Biden is the only person standing between us and another Donald Trump term which, as we know from Project 2025, would be far worse. Now is the time to stand behind the only guy to ever beat Trump, so we can do it again. https:\/\/t.co\/HtvWWDvw4R<\/p>\n<p>\u2014 TJ Ducklo (@TDucklo) July 6, 2024<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">While not explicitly saying that only Biden can beat Trump, that has been the tenor of much of the pushback. Biden and his allies will often note that he\u2019s the only candidate who has actually beaten Trump (in 2020), for instance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">For what it\u2019s worth, Biden said in December that \u201cprobably 50\u201d Democrats were capable of defeating Trump. Months earlier, Biden said that he wasn\u2019t the \u201conly\u201d one who could beat Trump and protect democracy but that he was \u201cbest-positioned\u201d to do it. (Trump, it bears noting, has been involved in a total of only three competitive campaigns, including the 2016 primaries and general election.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">As for whether Biden is best-positioned? The limited polling we have shows other Democrats performing similarly to Biden in some cases and better in a couple of cases. Michelle Obama leads Trump by double digits in a Reuters-Ipsos poll, and Vice President Harris did slightly better than Biden in the CNN poll (though worse than Biden in other polls).<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And many other potential candidates are far less well-known, which often depresses poll numbers. That leaves open the possibility that voters could find them more compelling than a president with a 37 percent approval rating.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The fact that many Democratic Senate candidates are currently running better than Biden in their states would surely suggest that someone else could at least theoretically be stronger in the presidential race. Of course, that\u2019s just in theory.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI don\u2019t care what those big names [liberals and Democrats suggesting he drop out] think. They were wrong in 2020. They were wrong in 2022 about the red wave. They\u2019re wrong in 2024. \u2026 Not only were they wrong, I said they were wrong beforehand. \u2026 I was not surprised; I predicted it.\u201d (\u201cMorning Joe\u201d)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Biden was counted out by some in the 2020 primaries, after losing the first three states. (His big win in South Carolina put him on course for victory.) But he was the widely acknowledged favorite in the general election throughout. And general elections are more predictable, because of partisanship.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">As for 2022, while plenty of analysts and politicians floated the possibility of a \u201cred wave,\u201d that generally didn\u2019t come from liberals and Democrats. And high-quality polling was not as troubling for Democrats then as it is now. Indeed, predictions of a red wave largely ignored the quite-accurate polls.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI carried an awful lot of the Democrats the last time I ran in 2020.\u201d (ABC News)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Biden did over-perform most key Democratic Senate candidates in the 2020 election \u2014 8 of 10, to be exact \u2014 making it plausible that his performance helped them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">There is some question about how much of that was voters just not liking Trump, but exit polls showed a slight majority of voters (52 percent) had a favorable opinion of Biden at the time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">That said, Biden\u2019s image is in a far different place now; his favorable rating is about 38 percent. (Favorability is more of a personal measure, while approval pertains to job performance.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cBut if any of these guys don\u2019t think I should run, run against me. Go ahead. Announce for president. Challenge me at the convention.\u201d (\u201cMorning Joe\u201d)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">There is no plausible path for anyone else at the convention if Biden doesn\u2019t drop out. But that\u2019s not because the base doesn\u2019t want it, necessarily; it\u2019s because the vast majority of the delegates are pledged to Biden after his performance in the primaries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cThe voters \u2014 and the voters alone \u2014 decide the nominee of the Democratic Party. How can we stand for democracy in our nation if we ignore it in our own party? I cannot do that. I will not do that.\u201d (Monday letter to fellow Democrats)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">It\u2019s valid to point out that Biden was the overwhelming choice of Democratic primary voters. Big-name Democrats could have challenged him. They didn\u2019t, for a variety of reasons, and he won big.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Having delegates pick the new nominee or coronating Harris is clearly less of a democratic process.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But the idea that urging him to drop out is ignoring democracy is a bit of a stretch. His allies aren\u2019t talking about delegates overturning the results; they are talking about persuading Biden to willingly drop out in light of new evidence raising concerns about his ability to campaign. And voters who were reluctant to vote for him in the primaries didn\u2019t have a real, viable alternative.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on The Washington Post<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are surely good reasons for President Biden to resist pressure to drop out of his 2024 reelection race. They\u2019re just not always the ones he and his team put forward. In recent days, Biden and his campaign have offered a number of justifications for why he shouldn\u2019t cave to that pressure and pass the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":5938,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5937","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5937","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5937"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5937\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/5938"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5937"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5937"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5937"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}