{"id":11025,"date":"2024-10-14T11:02:29","date_gmt":"2024-10-14T11:02:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/14\/trump-goes-to-war-against-real-time-fact-checks\/"},"modified":"2024-10-14T11:02:29","modified_gmt":"2024-10-14T11:02:29","slug":"trump-goes-to-war-against-real-time-fact-checks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/14\/trump-goes-to-war-against-real-time-fact-checks\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump goes to war against real-time fact checks"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Donald Trump and his campaign have waged an aggressive campaign against fact-checking in recent months, pushing TV networks, journalism organizations and others to abandon the practice if they hope to interact with Trump.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump nearly backed out of an August interview with a group of Black journalists after learning they planned to fact-check his claims. The following month, he and his allies repeatedly complained about the fact-checking that occurred during his debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, berating journalists and news executives in the middle of the televised debate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">And this month, Trump declined to sit down for an interview with CBS\u2019s \u201c60 Minutes\u201d because he objected to the show\u2019s practice of fact-checking, according to the show.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Campaign advisers also expressly asked CBS News to forgo fact checking in its vice-presidential debate with Trump\u2019s running mate, Ohio Sen. JD Vance \u2014 who then complained on air when a moderator corrected him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The moves are the latest example of Trump\u2019s long-held resistance to being called to account for his falsehoods, which have formed the bedrock of his political message for years. Just in recent weeks, for example, Trump has seized on fabricated tales of migrants eating pets and Venezuelan gangs overtaking cities in pushing his anti-immigration message as he seeks a second term in office.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Lucas Graves, a journalism and mass communications professor at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, said that publicly chafing at fact-checking has become a form of tribalism among some Republicans.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cWithin the political establishment on the right, it is now considered quite legitimate \u2014 and quite legitimate to say publicly and openly \u2014 that you disapprove of fact-checking,\u201d said Lucas, author of \u201cDeciding What\u2019s True: The Rise of Political Fact-Checking in American Journalism. \u201cPrecisely because of Trump\u2019s unusual relationship with the truth \u2014 even for a politician \u2014 it\u2019s hardly surprising that he would object to it so volubly and so forcefully.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The Washington Post Fact Checker team tallied that by the end of Trump\u2019s presidency, he had made 30,573 false or misleading claims \u2014 an average of about 21 false, erroneous or misleading claims a day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In August, Trump had agreed to appear at a National Association of Black Journalists gathering, where three of the group\u2019s members would interview him. But upon realizing that he would be fact-checked in real time, Trump\u2019s team said he would not be taking the stage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">NABJ president Ken Lemon described a tense scene backstage as Trump\u2019s team objected to any fact-checking of the interview, with the discussions lasting more than an hour. \u201cIf you guys are going to fact check, he\u2019s not going to take the stage,\u201d Lemon said a Trump aide told him. \u201cThey were just totally insistent that he was not going to take the stage if we fact-checked.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Lemon said he spoke with three Trump aides \u2014 who at one point called to confer with someone not at the event \u2014 about their objections to fact-checking as the audience waited.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">At one point, Lemon said he became convinced Trump was ultimately going to back out of the interview over his fact-checking concerns, so Lemon prepared remarks to go out and explain the cancellation to the crowd. But in the end, Trump took part in the interview, making headlines by falsely suggesting that Vice President Kamala Harris had only recently decided to identify as Black.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cIt was a very revealing moment where we got to hear him answer questions, and we were shocked at what some of the answers were,\u201d Lemon said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump officials blamed the delay in taking the stage on technical audio issues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cHere\u2019s the truth: President Trump initially couldn\u2019t take the stage because there were audio issues. Once the audio issues were resolved, President Trump took the stage and participated in the discussion, and the fact-checks still occurred,\u201d Karoline Leavitt, a Trump spokeswoman, said in a statement.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Harris, too, has taken a cautious approach to interviews, largely eschewing rigorous policy questioners for lower-stakes venues and having her advisers, at times, try to prescreen questions. Her blitz this week of unscripted media settings hewed to friendly questioners, including Howard Stern of Sirius XM, CBS\u2019s \u201cLate Night with Stephen Colbert\u201d and the popular \u201cCall Her Daddy\u201d podcast. During Harris\u2019s NABJ forum, the interviewers pressed less contentiously than they did Trump, and during the ABC presidential debate with Trump, the moderators did not fact check her in the same manner.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">One Trump adviser, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe the campaign\u2019s thinking, argued that Trump is treated more harshly than others. \u201cEvery candidate is opposed to fact checking on some degree, but if you\u2019re Trump, you know they are always going to go after you harder,\u201d the adviser said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But Harris does not misstate the truth regularly, as Trump does, and she has also not protested being fact-checked. And unlike Trump, she sat down for a wide-ranging interview with \u201c60 Minutes\u201d that aired last week.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">As part of Harris\u2019s interview, the show took the extraordinary step of explaining why it was not airing a similar segment with Trump, who had initially agreed to an interview before changing his mind.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cA week ago, Trump backed out,\u201d CBS correspondent Scott Pelley explained. \u201cThe campaign offered shifting explanations. First, it complained that we would fact-check the interview. We fact-check every story. Later, Trump said he needed an apology for his interview in 2020.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Pelley went on to explain that the 2020 incident for which Trump requested an apology had never occurred.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Campaign advisers acknowledged there were discussions with CBS over fact-checking, and the campaign objected to the network wanting to cut into the interview to fact-check.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The two debates \u2014 first with President Joe Biden and then with Harris after Biden dropped out \u2014 proved another point of contention. Trump\u2019s team repeatedly raised objections in negotiations that it did not want a fact-checking element during the debates, and continued to ask networks about the issue in the weeks leading up to the events, according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private negotiations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">During the debate between Trump and Biden, CNN publicly stated in advance that the moderators would not fact-check, instead leaving that to the candidates.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Before the second debate, Jason Miller, a spokesman for the Trump campaign, said the team was told by an ABC journalist that similar to the CNN debate, there would be no fact checks from the moderators. However, a copy of the ABC News debate rules, obtained by The Post, did not put any limitations on fact checking.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Nonetheless, Trump and his allies were furious with ABC for pointedly fact-checking Trump live during his debate with Harris. At one point, after Trump falsely claimed that some Democrats support executing babies after birth, moderator Linsey Davis noted, \u201cThere is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it\u2019s born.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">At another point \u2014 after Trump repeated the false and baseless claim that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, were abducting and eating their neighbors\u2019 cats and dogs \u2014 moderator David Muir interjected to say that ABC News had reached out to the city manager, who \u201ctold us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump\u2019s advisers \u2014 including Chris LaCivita and Miller \u2014 erupted at ABC executives and journalists in the middle of the debate, according to the people familiar with the situation. They implored the network to stop fact-checking for the rest of the event and said it had breached its promise, and a call was even lodged to the president of ABC News by Susie Wiles, the campaign\u2019s top aide. At least one Trump adviser demanded to talk to the moderators during the debate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The network declined to comment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cEveryone who watched the ABC debate agreed that it was a 3-on-1 fight with 2 moderators who wrongly \u2018fact-checked\u2019 President Trump multiple times, but did not fact check Kamala Harris ONCE, even though she spewed multiple lies on the debate stage,\u201d Leavitt said in her statement. \u201cThe ABC debate was widely viewed as one of the worst moderated debates in history, yet President Trump still won.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Harris spokesman Kevin Munoz responded: \u201cYou have to lie to be fact-checked, and only one person on that stage was telling lie after lie.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">By the time Vance was preparing for a CBS debate with Harris\u2019s running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, the issue of fact-checking was ever-present. During Vance\u2019s debate preparations, Trump advisers had former Fox News contributor Monica Crowley play the role of a fact-checking journalist, according to people familiar with the discussions, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe deliberations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In meetings with network executives, Vance\u2019s team insisted there would be no fact-checking, and CBS officials said they did not expect moderators to jump in and correct candidates, leaving it up to the candidates themselves, the people said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">However, at one point, moderator Margaret Brennan corrected a comment Vance had made about the \u201cillegal immigrants\u201d that he claimed where overwhelming Springfield, Ohio, noting that the city\u2019s large population of Haitian immigrants in fact have \u201clegal status \u2014 temporary protected status.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cMargaret, the rules were that you guys weren\u2019t going to fact check,\u201d Vance said. Behind the scenes, his team also raised strenuous objections with the network, arguing that such a moment was not supposed to have occurred. CBS declined to comment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The exchange was brief, but by then, the Trump-Vance ticket\u2019s desire to eschew fact-checking had so penetrated the public consciousness that \u201cSaturday Night Live\u201d poked fun at it in their next episode, when Bowen Yang, playing Vance, uttered a series of falsehoods while repeatedly muttering for the moderators not to check his facts.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cYou know, Nora, it\u2019s rich to say that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy when he peacefully gave over power \u2014 we said no fact checking \u2014 and willingly, and willingly \u2014 don\u2019t check that \u2014 got on his plane without incident \u2014 don\u2019t \u2014 right after saving Obamacare \u2014 don\u2019t check that,\u201d Yang-as-Vance said as the audience laughed.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Donald Trump and his campaign have waged an aggressive campaign against fact-checking in recent months, pushing TV networks, journalism organizations and others to abandon the practice if they hope to interact with Trump. Trump nearly backed out of an August interview with a group of Black journalists after learning they planned to fact-check his claims. 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