{"id":10463,"date":"2024-10-02T05:02:17","date_gmt":"2024-10-02T05:02:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/02\/vance-walz-square-off-in-what-could-be-final-meeting-of-presidential-campaigns\/"},"modified":"2024-10-02T05:02:17","modified_gmt":"2024-10-02T05:02:17","slug":"vance-walz-square-off-in-what-could-be-final-meeting-of-presidential-campaigns","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/10\/02\/vance-walz-square-off-in-what-could-be-final-meeting-of-presidential-campaigns\/","title":{"rendered":"Vance, Walz square off in what could be final meeting of presidential campaigns"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">NEW YORK \u2014 It was a political joust with a healthy side of Midwest nice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) shook hands twice Tuesday before the only vice-presidential debate of the cycle, exchanging broad smiles before repeatedly paying each other respect as they launched sustained and biting attacks on each other\u2019s running mates.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In marked contrast to the September presidential clash between former president Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris \u2014 who  hardly concealed their disgust with each other \u2014 the running mates often went out of their way to be gracious, while focusing more on policy differences than personal slights.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">They offered praise, sympathized and acknowledged that they agreed on how to address some of the country\u2019s most vexing and divisive issues. At the same time, neither man shied away from the dirty work they had to do for their campaigns.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance referred to \u201cour Democratic friends\u201d even as he suggested that Harris had \u201cenabled the Mexican drug cartels to operate freely in this country\u201d and set the stage for the global instability that has sparked a widening war in the Middle East.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cTim, I think you\u2019ve got a tough job here because you\u2019ve got to play whack-a-mole,\u201d Vance said in an expression of sympathy before an attack. \u201cYou\u2019ve got to pretend that Donald Trump didn\u2019t deliver rising take home pay, which of course he did. You\u2019ve got to pretend that Donald Trump didn\u2019t deliver lower inflation, which of course he did. And then you simultaneously got to defend Kamala Harris\u2019s atrocious economic record.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Walz turned from the first question about the Middle East to argue that the nation doesn\u2019t need \u201ca nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes\u201d to solve the situation. He quoted Trump\u2019s recent dismissal of the traumatic brain injuries sustained by U.S. troops during his presidency as \u201cheadaches.\u201d And he chided Trump for conducting diplomacy on Twitter and for not paying federal taxes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Walz followed up by criticizing Vance for repeating unsubstantiated claims that immigrants in the senator\u2019s home state had been eating the pets of their neighbors, a claim that local officials say lacks evidence. He also said Trump had helped to scuttle a bill that would have solved the immigration problem, because he wanted to run on immigration reform.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI believe Senator Vance wants to solve this, but by standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point,\u201d Walz said. \u201cAnd when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance responded by suggesting that Walz is more sympathetic to the plight of native-born Americans than his running mate is. \u201cI think you want to solve this problem, but I don\u2019t think that Kamala Harris does,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In one of the sharpest exchanges of the debate, Walz directly asked Vance whether Trump had lost the 2020 election, a fact the former president has refused to admit.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cTim, I am focused on the future,\u201d Vance deflected.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cThat is damning,\u201d Walz said. \u201cThat is a damning non-answer.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Tuesday\u2019s debate may be the last direct confrontation between the major-party candidates in a race that remains effectively tied in the key battleground states. Harris, who entered the race in late July, has been calling for a second debate between her and Trump. The Republican nominee has refused.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance, 40, a first-term Republican senator, former U.S. Marine and best-selling author, cast himself before the debate as a fierce and defiant ideological bulldog \u2014 a leader of a new kind of conservatism pioneered by Trump. Walz, 60 \u2014 a former teacher and Army National Guard veteran who has held elected office since 2007 \u2014 has taken a more upbeat approach, rallying Democrats with an energetic \u201cmind your own damned business\u201d message while dismissing his Republican opponents as \u201cweird.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Both men acknowledged Tuesday night that they had misspoken in the past. Walz was asked to address his false claims about traveling to China during the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989, despite only traveling to the country months later. In response, Walz said he could be a \u201cknucklehead\u201d and had spoken in error.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI will talk a lot. I will get caught up in the rhetoric,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance also apologized for his past criticism of Trump, including once privately wondering whether Trump was \u201cAmerica\u2019s Hitler\u201d and comparing him to \u201ccultural heroin.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI\u2019ve also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump,\u201d Vance said. \u201cI was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record. But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI think there was a lot of commonality here,\u201d said Walz later in the debate. \u201cAnd I\u2019m sympathetic to misspeaking on things.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cMe too, man,\u201d said Vance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">One of the only other truly contentious moments in the debate came when one of the moderators, Margaret Brennan, pointed out that the Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, falsely accused of eating pets are there legally under a Biden administration program. Vance objected.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cThe rules were you weren\u2019t going to fact check,\u201d Vance responded, before speaking out of turn to argue that the Biden administration\u2019s policy was not proper. After repeated requests that the debaters stop speaking out of turn, the moderators cut the microphones of the candidates and changed topics.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">CBS News did not publicly announce that there would be no fact checking before the event. But the Harris campaign had been concerned about the debate rules, which read, \u201cModerators will seek to enforce timing agreements.\u201d By contrast, the debate rules issued by ABC News for the Sept. 10 presidential debate said, \u201cModerators will seek to enforce timing agreements and ensure a civilized discussion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">When the debate turned to abortion, Walz recounted horror stories of people unable to access abortion care, sometimes with deadly results, stressing that \u201cDonald Trump put this all into motion.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Walz also talked about how he and his wife, Gwen, needed fertility treatments to conceive their daughter and warned that similar procedures could be threatened by draconian abortion restrictions under Trump.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Abortion rights is a top issue for Harris\u2019s campaign and the Democratic Party, particularly after the 2022 Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v Wade. Harris and Walz have linked increased restrictions on abortion access to what they say is a pattern of Republican overreach into people\u2019s everyday lives, dovetailing with Harris\u2019s campaign theme: freedom.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump has bragged about selecting conservative Supreme Court justices who helped overturn Roe, but he has sought to distance himself from state bans that go further, or efforts to place federal restrictions on the procedure. Vance and Trump have also had crossed wires on the issue. In August, Vance said Trump would veto a national abortion ban if it passed Congress; Trump, during his debate with Harris, said he didn\u2019t discuss a ban with Vance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Vance said he had never called for a national abortion ban, though he has said he would like abortion to be illegal nationwide. He and said Trump\u2019s stance is that a diverse array of states should have the ability to make their own decisions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cWe have a big country, and it\u2019s diverse, and California has a different viewpoint on this than Georgia. Georgia has a different viewpoint from Arizona. And the proper way to handle this, as messy as democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make these decisions, let the individual states make their abortion policy,\u201d Vance said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But Walz said that Trump and Vance were trying to paint themselves as pro-family when they really support policies that are anti-woman.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cWhen we do a restoration of Roe that works best, that doesn\u2019t preclude us from increasing funding for children,\u201d Walz said. \u201cIt doesn\u2019t increase us from making sure that once that child is born, like in Minnesota, they get meals, they get early-childhood education. They get health care.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">At one point, during a discussion of shootings in schools, Walz told a story about his own 17-year-old son witnessing a shooting at a community center while playing volleyball. Vance immediately offered his sympathy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI didn\u2019t know that your 17-year-old witnessed the shooting, and I\u2019m sorry about that,\u201d Vance said. \u201cJesus have mercy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI appreciate that,\u201d Walz responded.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">After closing statements, both men lingered onstage to exchange more friendly words and introduce their wives to each other.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NEW YORK \u2014 It was a political joust with a healthy side of Midwest nice. Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) shook hands twice Tuesday before the only vice-presidential debate of the cycle, exchanging broad smiles before repeatedly paying each other respect as they launched sustained and biting attacks on each [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":10464,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10463","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10463","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10463"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10463\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/10464"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10463"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10463"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10463"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}