{"id":10367,"date":"2024-09-30T23:02:14","date_gmt":"2024-09-30T23:02:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/30\/union-members-could-be-big-for-trump-he-keeps-complicating-that\/"},"modified":"2024-09-30T23:02:14","modified_gmt":"2024-09-30T23:02:14","slug":"union-members-could-be-big-for-trump-he-keeps-complicating-that","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/30\/union-members-could-be-big-for-trump-he-keeps-complicating-that\/","title":{"rendered":"Union members could be big for Trump. He keeps complicating that."},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">If Donald Trump is elected president on Nov. 5, it\u2019s possible we\u2019ll be talking a lot about union households in the days afterward.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">About 1 in 5 voters tend to come from these households, and CNN\u2019s Harry Enten reports that Trump is doing better with them than any Republican presidential candidate in four decades. A recent poll of Teamsters members also showed a huge shift toward Trump since Vice President Kamala Harris joined the 2024 race at the top of the Democratic ticket; members supported Trump over her by a nearly 2-to-1 margin. (The union itself made no endorsement.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But as is so often the case, Trump appears to be testing just how much his newfound supporters will tolerate.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Despite his rise in union-household support \u2014 Trump lost these voters by 16 points in 2020 but trails by just nine now, according to Enten\u2019s numbers \u2014 Trump keeps saying remarkably anti-union things.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump has in recent weeks offered praise for the concept of firing striking workers, which would be illegal, and this weekend he talked about how he would \u201cget other people in\u201d rather than pay workers overtime. The comments build on years-old ones in which Trump expressed a preference for nonunion labor.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump\u2019s latest comments came Sunday at a rally in Erie, Pa., when he talked about his proposal not to tax overtime pay.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI know a lot about overtime. I\u2019ve hated to give overtime. I hated it,\u201d Trump said. \u201cI get other people \u2014 I shouldn\u2019t say this, but I\u2019d get other people in. I wouldn\u2019t pay.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Perhaps Trump\u2019s most significant comments on this front came in an August event with Elon Musk, in which Trump praised the idea of having Musk lead a government efficiency commission. While making that case, Trump praised Musk for supposedly firing striking workers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cWell, you, you\u2019re the greatest cutter. I mean, I look at what you do,\u201d Trump said. \u201cYou walk in and you just say, \u2018You want to quit?\u2019 They go on strike. I won\u2019t mention the name of the company, but they go on strike and you say, \u2018That\u2019s okay. You\u2019re all gone. You\u2019re all gone. So every one of you is gone.\u2019 And you are the greatest. You would be very good.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The National Labor Relations Act makes it illegal to fire workers who are striking or threatening to strike.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">It wasn\u2019t clear precisely what labor dispute Trump was talking about; Musk runs many businesses. Trump running mate JD Vance later claimed Trump was talking about firing workers at the social-media platform X over alleged censorship, but Trump made no mention of censorship and specifically invoked striking workers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Musk\u2019s SpaceX has fired workers who criticized him in an open letter, leading to a lawsuit. The National Labor Relations Board in recent years has sanctioned Musk for unfair labor practices, including for a tweet aimed at discouraging unionization.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The United Auto Workers has also now filed a lawsuit in response to Trump\u2019s comments to Musk, alleging that the two of them effectively threatened and intimidated union workers. And Trump\u2019s comments drew Teamsters President Sean O\u2019Brien, who just a month prior had spoken at the Republican National Convention, to called Trump\u2019s comments \u201ceconomic terrorism.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">These aren\u2019t the first examples of Trump comments that could prove alienating to union stalwarts. Trump during his 2016 campaign expressed a preference for nonunion workers. He noted he has worked with union labor in New York and without it in Florida.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cIf I had my choice,\u201d he said, \u201cI think I\u2019d take it without.\u2019\u2019<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">He also made firm campaign promises to specific plants and areas, only to fail to deliver. And his record was often noticeably anti-union.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Focusing on Trump\u2019s gains with union households can be misleading. Union households include a member of a union, but that doesn\u2019t mean the voter is a union member. There is also what appears to be an increasing gap between union members and their leadership, who probably feel more strongly about union-specific issues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Unions themselves also vary widely in their political makeup and their priorities, with members of trade unions tending to be more politically conservative than, say, members of teachers unions. We don\u2019t have detailed data on how members of different types of unions are breaking down in the 2024 race, beyond the union-household numbers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In many ways, Trump\u2019s gains with union households is an extension of his gains more broadly with working-class voters. Trump has lost huge ground with more formally educated voters, while gaining with voters he once labeled \u201cthe poorly educated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But to the extent that union members do feel strongly about their organizations\u2019 prerogatives and rights, it\u2019s difficult to imagine more alienating comments than those approving of firing striking workers. And Trump on Sunday was practically bragging about depriving union members of overtime in comments Democrats could certainly use to paint Trump as antithetical to hardworking union members\u2019 concerns.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Democrats haven\u2019t really driven home this message yet on a large scale, save for the \u201cTrump\u2019s a scab\u201d attacks at the Democratic National Convention. But given how huge these votes loom in the 2024 election, don\u2019t be surprised if these unguarded Trump moments are featured down the home stretch of the campaign.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If Donald Trump is elected president on Nov. 5, it\u2019s possible we\u2019ll be talking a lot about union households in the days afterward. About 1 in 5 voters tend to come from these households, and CNN\u2019s Harry Enten reports that Trump is doing better with them than any Republican presidential candidate in four decades. 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