{"id":10061,"date":"2024-09-24T19:02:19","date_gmt":"2024-09-24T19:02:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/24\/one-of-trumps-hoary-pop-culture-references-finally-lands\/"},"modified":"2024-09-24T19:02:19","modified_gmt":"2024-09-24T19:02:19","slug":"one-of-trumps-hoary-pop-culture-references-finally-lands","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/2024\/09\/24\/one-of-trumps-hoary-pop-culture-references-finally-lands\/","title":{"rendered":"One of Trump\u2019s hoary pop-culture references finally lands"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">For those who\u2019ve tracked Donald Trump\u2019s speeches over the past decade, the patter that unfolded in Pennsylvania on Monday evening was very familiar. An attack on a Democrat that shifted into a discussion of television ratings that ended at praise for an icon of the 1980s. We could create a slot-machine-style Trump Speech Generator with various names filling those slots \u2014 [spin] Hillary Clinton could never get ratings on [spin] \u201cThe View\u201d the way [spin] David Hasselhoff could \u2014 and yield something that could slip into a Trump speech without raising eyebrows.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But there was something unusual about Trump\u2019s riff on Monday: The 1980s callback was actually to someone who Americans would agree deserved the recognition. It may have been happenstance, but Trump\u2019s nostalgia for the era when he dominated the New York City tabloids caused him to dredge up a name for which many Americans would have similar feelings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">The name was Johnny Carson, but it took a while for Trump to get there. First he played a clip of [spin] Vice President Kamala Harris appearing on \u201cThe Tonight Show\u201d with Jimmy Fallon \u2014 a clip that Fox News touted this week as having been \u201cunearthed,\u201d as if \u201cThe Tonight Show\u201d is some ancient civilization that lies buried at the bottom of the sea.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Trump then transitioned to a comment about how [spin] Fox News host Greg Gutfeld was clobbering Fallon and other late-night hosts (like CBS\u2019s Stephen Colbert and ABC\u2019s Jimmy Kimmel) in the ratings. This is overly generous to Gutfeld, in part because Gutfeld is in prime time. Obviously Trump doesn\u2019t care.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Then the former president started talking about the time he was on Fallon\u2019s show and Fallon messed around with his hair.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cI went on his show, right? And he goes \u2014 \u2018The Tonight Show,\u2019 which is dying,\u201d Trump said. \u201cThey\u2019re all dying. Where\u2019s Johnny Carson? Bring back Johnny!\u201d ([spin], etc.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">He shouted out a guy in the audience who was apparently dressed like Uncle Sam before returning to his tangent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">\u201cIt made you appreciate the greatness of Johnny Carson and these guys,\u201d he said. \u201cThese three guys, they\u2019re so bad, all three of them.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">When this clip was shared on social media, there was a lot of eye-rolling about another out-of-date reference from Trump. But this one is perhaps less out of date than it may seem.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">We should answer Trump\u2019s \u201cwhere\u2019s Johnny Carson\u201d question by noting that the former \u201cTonight Show\u201d host is dead and has been for nearly two decades. He hadn\u2019t been the host of the show since 1992 \u2014 more than 30 years ago.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">But 6 in 10 Americans were alive while the Carson-hosted show was on the air. Some of them were too little to watch it, much less appreciate it, but half of the country was at least 8 years old when Carson called it quits. About 80 percent of adults were born while Carson was on the air or prior.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In 2014, YouGov asked Americans to evaluate different late-night talk show hosts, finding that \u2014 more than 20 years after he went off the air! \u2014 Carson was still most likely to be identified as Americans\u2019 favorite host. Overall, a third of Americans said Carson was their favorite host. Among those age 45 and up, more than half did.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">That was 10 years ago, but more recent data is not much different. YouGov\u2019s regular assessments of the popularity of celebrities indicates that Carson is still more popular than Colbert, Fallon and Kimmel. That\u2019s in part because older Americans (members of the baby boom generation or Generation X) view him much more positively than the three current hosts. It\u2019s also because millennials, who are younger, are not much more enthusiastic about the current hosts than they are about Carson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">This is a reflection of the decreased likelihood of younger Americans (and Americans overall) to watch late-night shows. Carson consistently pulled in more than 19 million viewers as his tenure neared its end in 1992. A \u201cTonight Show\u201d special that aired this year celebrating Fallon\u2019s 10th anniversary as host had about 3 million viewers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">In other words, if you\u2019re going to decry late-night hosts and seize upon someone widely regarded as the best to do it, Carson is who you\u2019d pick. Particularly if you are speaking to a group of Pennsylvanians that skews older than Americans overall.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Of course, Trump had just mentioned a much less-popular talk-show host, someone who is viewed positively by less than half of the number of people who like Carson and even trails Fallon by 20 points. We\u2019re referring, of course, to Greg Gutfeld.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wpds-c-heFNVF wpds-c-heFNVF-iPJLV-css overrideStyles font-copy\">Sometimes when you spin the wheel, you go bust.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on washingtonpost.com<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For those who\u2019ve tracked Donald Trump\u2019s speeches over the past decade, the patter that unfolded in Pennsylvania on Monday evening was very familiar. An attack on a Democrat that shifted into a discussion of television ratings that ended at praise for an icon of the 1980s. We could create a slot-machine-style Trump Speech Generator with [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":10062,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10061","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10061","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10061"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10061\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/10062"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10061"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10061"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/businesstriumphs.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10061"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}